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These Wisconsin swing voters say Trump's war in Iran wasn't worth it
These Wisconsin swing voters say Trump's war in Iran wasn’t worth it
The war in Iran was a costly blunder, according to swing voters in the battleground state of Wisconsin.
NPR observed two online focus groups on Tuesday featuring voters who supported Joe Biden in 2020 and then Donald Trump in 2024.
President Trump had just announced a framework agreement to end the war, which he signed on Wednesday.
Yet among the focus groups' 13 participants, no one said they thought the conflict with Iran was worth it, and nine said they felt that the U.S. is coming out of this conflict weaker than before.
Corey M., a 33-year-old independent voter, said he is concerned that the U.S. expended "so much financially and so much of our arsenal," with little to show for it. (All participants agreed to be part of the focus groups on the condition that they be identified by their first name and last initial only.)
"We essentially got nothing out of it," he said. "It's hurt our economy and increased expenses for the everyday American, and it accomplished the square root of nothing."
Focus groups are not scientifically significant like polling. But they provide insight into how Americans are thinking about what they see in the news.
These focus groups — made up of 10 self-described independents, two Democrats and one Republican — were conducted by messaging and market research firms Engagious and Sago as part of the Swing Voter Project. NPR is a partner on the project.
Rich Thau, president of Engagious, moderated the focus groups. He has been asking voters in key states about this conflict since March. And he said voters have been consistent.
"They were never on board," Thau said. "Not the beginning. Not in the middle. And as we just learned, not at the end either, judging from what we heard from Wisconsin swing voters."
Sam M., a 30-year-old independent, said from what he read about the deal, it wasn't leaving the U.S. in a better position than before the war. In fact, he said he thought the Iran nuclear deal brokered by the Obama administration — which Trump backed out of — was a better deal for the United States.
Anger over high gas prices
For most voters, though, their biggest concern has remained the high gas prices that are a consequence of the war.
Tammy S., a 53-year-old independent voter, said Americans have been unfairly caught in the middle.
"I just don't think the way that everybody else had to suffer through the tantrums of these two playing tug-of-war — I just don't think that it was fair to the American people," she said. "I don't think that anybody was a real winner here."
Several voters said they've felt squeezed by costs and as a result have given up something that had been a regular part of their life. They've cut vacations and eating out or are getting their hair done less often.
"I've given up all my extracurricular hobbies … paddleboarding, yoga," said Jaylyn M., a 27-year-old who identifies as a Republican. "And then a lot of my subscriptions I've cut out, along with my daily coffee, which is minor, but all things that I've had to give up to make ends meet."
"I had to raise all my deductibles on everything — my car insurance, my health insurance — to lower my premiums, so that I can continue to make it," added Robyn T., a 63-year-old independent.
Trump owns the economic problems
The latest NPR/PBS News/Marist poll, out Thursday, finds that only a third of Americans approve of how Trump is handling the economy.
In the focus groups, nine of the 13 voters said they are more anxious about the economy than they were before Trump took office last year. And all but one voter agreed with the statement that "President Trump himself is responsible for those higher prices" because of the war.
"And 10 said he's out of touch with their economic concerns," Thau told NPR. "So for them, there's a clear disconnect between how the president's operating on the economy and what their needs are."
And heading into what could be some tough midterm elections for Republicans, voters are really frustrated that Trump isn't delivering a better economy by now.
"It seems to me, like, pick your issue, and things are not going well for him," said Josh K., a 29-year-old independent voter. "I mean, we got this stupid war in Iran, and it turns out that we actually aren't getting anything out of it. I mean, all we got was $4 gas. I mean, pick your issue — the economy, things are more expensive."
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Read the full text of Trump's preliminary U.S.-Iran agreement to end the war
NPR has obtained a copy of the framework agreement to end the war with Iran. A source shared the text on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the preliminary deal.
Formally called a "memorandum of understanding," the text was signed Wednesday by President Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, as well as by the prime minister of Pakistan, which mediated between the U.S. and Iran.
The text is as follows:
Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America
The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America have jointly agreed, in good faith, on ......... 2026, at…….., on the following:
1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final Deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.
2. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.
3. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America commit to negotiating and achieving the final Deal, in maximum 60 days extendable with mutual consent.
4. Immediately upon the signing of this MoU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final Deal.
5. Upon the signing of this MoU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels, with no charge for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles, and de-mining by the Islamic Republic of Iran, will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman, to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz, in discussions with other Persian Gulf Littoral States, in line with applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
6. The United States of America undertakes, with regional partners, to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion, for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
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7. The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned and express their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
8. The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon, in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph 7, with the minimum methodology to be down blending on-site, under the supervision of the IAEA. The two Parties also agree to discuss the issue of enrichment, and other mutually agreed matters relating to the Islamic Republic of Iran's nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final Deal. The final Deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned and express their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
9. Pending the final Deal, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America agree to maintain the status quo; the Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions, and will not deploy any additional forces in the region.
10. The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MoU, and until the termination of sanctions, the U.S. Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.
11. The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use, the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MoU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.
12. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MoU and the future compliance of the final Deal.
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13. After signing this MoU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10 and 11 of this MoU and the continuing implementation of these measures, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America will start negotiations regarding the final Deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
14. The final Deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.
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EVIAN-LES-BAINS, France — US President Donald Trump on Wednesday described Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin as "neutral" during the war with Iran, saying they had not thwarted his efforts to curb Tehran's nuclear ambitions.
"I just want to thank them because they made it a lot better," Trump said following the adoption of a ceasefire agreement in the conflict.
Speaking at a press conference at the Group of Seven (G7) conference in Evian-les-Bains, France, Trump told reporters he was grateful to the leaders for staying out of the conflict.
"I want to thank China, President Xi. I was with him, and he stayed neutral, totally neutral, and I appreciate it," Trump said.
"And I want to thank Vladimir Putin, he was very neutral. They could have made it much more difficult for us."
Trump's comments stood in contrast to his comments on US allies from Japan to Europe, whom he has criticised for not helping with the military operation or subsequent efforts to clear the Strait of Hormuz, the Iran-blocked maritime trade route.
Moscow and Beijing maintain close ties with Tehran. Russia has said the war could lead to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.
Beijing has condemned Washington's attacks on Tehran as a brazen violation of the country's sovereignty.
US intelligence officials assess that Beijing supplied Tehran with goods with potential military uses, according to people familiar with the matter.
China's independent oil refiners have been Iran's main customers during the conflict, defying US sanctions.
But Trump said that Xi was helpful to resolving the conflict, and avoided sending in "big weaponry" or shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles.
"They could have sent in an oil ship with six destroyers alongside of it, on each side. They didn't do that. President Xi helped me. He tried to help, and I think he probably helped get it solved," Trump said.
In a statement, a spokesperson for China's embassy in Washington said their position had been "consistent" and that they had been "working tirelessly for the end of fighting and peace."
Russia's embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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